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The Observer: Separate, But Better

Abstract:
Like certain fashion styles, some ideas just keep making comebacks. Each year, it seems, some editor or staff writer at The Commentator comes up with the idea that The Commentator and The Observer should combine forces and merge into an uber-powerful newspaper called The Commentator....

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Avi Kopstick

posted 10/30/09 @ 1:21 PM EST

I think that if the Observer ever consented to such an advance by the Commentator, the staff would lose any respect/power that they currently control.

Take the new Jewish Studies Council(SLC) at Wilf, for example. Last year, Student Life Committee proposed a bill to combine the morning program student councils into one centralized board. The catch: only someone from MYP could preside over it. When I asked SLC why someone from any other morning program couldn't do as good a job, they answered that it had nothing to do with prejudice, but rather because MYP has the majority of students. They claimed the move was merely pragmatic in getting a "necessary" bill passed: The only way they would be able to combine the boards and have fair, effective programming was to assure the students of MYP that their power would be maintained - by giving them half of the votes one the board and the final presiding decision.

This year, the president of the new council, Jason Jacobs, does not even acknowledge this new board. He signs his emails "President, Student Organization of Yeshiva." On top of that, getting him to support any program that does not serve MYP's purpose, is like trying to get Prime Minister Stephen Harper to support... alright that joke was going nowhere but you get what I'm saying.

Should the Observer allow itself to be taken over by the Commentator, the women at Stern can say goodbye to ever being an editor, a writer on a important, etc. (Which would be sad because sometime the editors/writers on the Observer have more balls than the writers on the Commentator staff). JSC's unfairness arose from just some silly religious/image prejudices. I believe the sexism that is bound to exists on an all-male, Orthodox campus will prove much harder to combat. Even though they'll probably tell you it has nothing to do with sexism, it's just that Wilf has a majority of students...

YC '09

posted 10/30/09 @ 1:39 PM EST

Well done. Even though, as a former opinions editor for the Commie, I hadn't really heard this idea proposed before this year, it is believable that there have been some guys clamoring for a merger for a while. A vocal minority, I'd call them [/him].


I, too, can't understand what would motivate someone to push for a merger between the Commie and the Observer. And I don't really think they even want one. Even if this one editor does, I can assure you that most of the staff probably doesn't. And even if the WHOLE staff somehow did (and they don't), I don't think the STUDENTS, who are your READERS, would want it. Sure, a Fashion section and a Sports section coexist in the New York Times, but the Commie and Observer are NOT the times, and they shouldn't strive to be. That's not what the students want. They can already get the Times. They want a campus newspaper they can turn to for some quick info about the goings-on when they are short on time, and a few longer pieces they can check out when they get around to them. Always keep in mind who you serve.

I think it has to do with a desperate plea for attention ("hey everyone look how progressive I am!") more than chauvanism or even insecurity. It's tough to really say they're being chauvanistic, especially when you ignored the fact that Mr. Horowitz [admittedly, rather weakly] suggested making some kind of hyphenated or combined name for the paper.

And for insecurity... really? Did we HAVE to go there? Why did the title have to be "Separate, But BETTER"... do you really think the Observer is "Better" and if so, why did you not prove that in this article? As much as I diliked the Commie article, I don't think Mr. Horowitz was being sexist, why did you have to take offense and launch a counterattack to something that was not initiated? That one stupid little word in the headline made the article seem whiny... even though it really wasn't! Big turn-off for your male readers, to go ahead and insult their campus paper like that. Unless you're also looking for attention??

As far a jealousy is concerned, I think the proponent(s) of any campus merger (this newspaper merger specifically, but also the old Kastner lunacy/legacy) are a only envious of other American universities. And that needs to stop. If you wanted to go to Penn, you should have. Don't try to transform YU to meet every little standard you see elsewhere. Sure, academically you'd like to see high standards being met or surpassed, and yes we do need to make some progress in that area, but not for the sake of being "progressive." For the sake of education.

I really think he was just trying to get attention. And unfortunately, he succeeded. Now he's got you all riled up and saying your paper is Better, which makes you vulnerable to challenge. Let's see if he goes there, or if he can be the bigger... individual... and just let you be "Better" and get on with it. Like I said, I like the message INSIDE the article, mostly, but the petty bickering about who is Better and who is a bigot, we could really do without.

Alisa U.S.

posted 11/01/09 @ 11:34 PM EST

Actually, the title - "The Observer: Separate, But Better" - would imply that being separate is the thing that would be better. The title is not "The Observer: It's Better," but rather a statement on the continued - and valued - separation of the two newspapers.

YC '09

posted 11/01/09 @ 11:54 PM EST

I disagree. That could have been the intention, but it's certainly not the effect. The way to write that would have been "The Observer: Separate, but Better Off That Way" or something else specific.

The way it is, "Separate, but Better," CLEARLY states that The Observer is both the thing that is "separate" and the thing that is "better." The only antecedent in the phrase is The Observer. The separation between the papers is not a noun there, so it cannot be modified by "Better." Since "separate" only appears as an adjective, it CAN'T be what the "Better" is referring to. Now, I think you agree with all that, but you're saying that the WAY that the Observer is "Better" is that it is better off separate than if it would be merged. I agree. However, that is not what the title says. It could have been the intended meaning, but if so, that subtlety was definitely not communicated well.

YC '09

posted 11/02/09 @ 12:07 AM EST

Now that I think about it, a good way to communicate the idea you think they were trying to communicate would have been simply: "The Observer: Separate is Better"

Straightforward, to the point, and not easily mistaken for an insult.

Alisa U.S.

posted 11/02/09 @ 2:04 PM EST

Hold up, my long-winded friend. Titles are indicators, not dogmas. The Observer, separate from The Commentator, is a better Observer. Any deeper interpretations are, of course, a possibility, but not necessarily the direct meaning.

YC '09

posted 11/02/09 @ 5:31 PM EST

Sure they are indicators, but they definitely have a surface meaning which cant just be ignored. And if the intention was as you say, I think the imprecise diction did this article a disservice. Titles serve articles. They shouldn't take away from them, they should enhance them, attract attention to them, or if a proper title cannot be found, they should do nothing. I feel that the title here had a net negative effect. Brief enough for you?

rav hamechaber

posted 11/02/09 @ 8:31 PM EST

Such lomdus into the title of a silly article?!

YC '09

posted 11/03/09 @ 12:54 PM EST

Why not practice "lomdus" at every available chance? Only way to get better is by practice.

Uri

posted 10/30/09 @ 4:54 PM EST

Mr Horowitz did want attention-pure and simple. The quality of The Observer last year-under Olivia Wiznitzer's leadership was very good. Both papers need to learn to exist side by side and concentrate on the news of their individual campuses.

The President

posted 11/01/09 @ 1:04 AM EST

This is the most brilliant opinions piece in The Observer since Ariella Goldwag single-handedly persuaded Winston Churchill to take a stand in World War Two in an article entitled "Why Winston Churchill should take a stand in World War Two" (we still talk about that in the Oval Office sometimes, you know). In any case, kudos to the Opinions Editor for standing up for the autonomy, innovation, and involvement of the avid fans of The Observer. May the wellsprings of your opinions ever inundate us with your fertile knowledge. -The President of the United States of America (and that includes Alaska).

YC '09

posted 11/01/09 @ 9:57 AM EST

Uri, you said it best:

"Both papers need to learn to exist side by side and concentrate on the news of their individual campuses."
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